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FIND THE OUTSIDE is a podcast about making change with this key truth at the centre: fresh air always helps.
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Top Guests
4.02: Outside Conversations with Adam Kahane - On Facilitating Breakthrough
Tuesday and Tim are joined by long-time friend, mentor, author, and thought leader, Adam Kahane, Director of Reos Partners, where he talks about the inspiration and reasons for writing his most recent book, Facilitating Breakthrough: How to Remove Obstacles, Bridge Differences, and Move Forward Together. || January 18, 2022
5.15: Outside Conversations with Dr. Báyò Akómoláfé - An invitation to break the spell
Tuesday and Tim are joined by Dr. Báyò Akómoláfé where they discuss ancestors and new gods, the concept of slushy time, the soul as “between,” the human as a map, how we show up in the world, and Báyò’s invitation to all of us. This is a brilliant - in EVERY sense of the word! - episode. || April 11, 2023
6.08: Outside Conversations with Zaid Hassan - Making a moral argument for unintended consequences
Tuesday and Tim are excited to welcome back writer, strategist, facilitator, CEO of 10-in-10, and author of The Social Labs Revolution, Zaid Hassan, where he helps us kick off our first episode in the “Changing Planet” series through his second book - “How To Evolve: Using evolution to fix culture, politics and economics, stop the world from frying, & why it’s not that hard.” || January 23, 2024
In this heartfelt and inspiring episode, Tim and Tuesday sit down with their longtime friend and mentor, Margaret Wheatley, a trailblazer in understanding and navigating systemic collapse and disruption over the past four decades. || March 18, 2025
Top Pods
THE HOW-TO OF FACILITATION THAT BRINGS MORE — IDEAS, VOICES, CLARITY — FORWARD
Tim and Tuesday contemplate the nature of neutrality for hosts or facilitators. What are our obligations towards the people in the room? For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 2, 2018
SMALL REFLECTS ALL || Tim and Tuesday talk with fellow Outsiders, Sommer Sibilly-Brown and Kristina Torres, where they introduce us to the Island of St. Croix, Crucians and how this small island can show us that big change can be done differently. || November 3, 2021
5.05: Outside Tues + Tim: On our relationships to privilege
Join Tuesday and Tim as they reflect on their "Authors Series" - interviews with writers Zaid Hassan, Cyndi Suarez and Richard Beard - who are each trying to change the world in wildly different ways. || November 29, 2022
7.03: Outside Tues + Tim - On finding your internal compass
In this engaging episode, Tim and Tuesday discuss the importance of recognizing crossroads in life and how to navigate them intentionally. They emphasize the significance of internal work and finding one's internal compass, moving from a mindset of action to one of reflection and integration. || October 29, 2024
Articles & Blogs
ResourcesArticles
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![Title page of a book titled 'The Dawn of System Leadership' with the subtitle 'The deep changes necessary to accelerate progress against most intractable problems require someone who catalyzes leadership', authored by Peter Senge, Hal Hamilton, and John Kania, published in Winter 2015.]()
The Dawn of System Leadership
By Peter Senge, Hal Hamilton & John Kania
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![A group of six people standing outdoors on a patio, holding and playing with a rope toy. They are engaged in a team activity, with some smiling and wearing casual clothes and sunglasses. There are chairs, tables, potted plants, and cups in the background.]()
Using Emergence to Take Social Innovation to Scale
By Margaret Wheatley and Deborah Frieze
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![Screenshot of an article titled 'What Now?' published on Medium by Nora Bateson, dated October 15, 2020, with a short excerpt about forest sounds and transformation.]()
What Now?
By Nora Bateson
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![A presentation slide titled 'Evaluating Prototypes' with text explaining the importance of prototyping in engineering, software design, and manufacturing.]()
Evaluating Prototypes
By Aids 4 Action
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![Book cover titled "A Developmental Evaluation Primer" by Jamie A.A. Gamble with a brown background.]()
A Developmental Evaluation Primer
By Jamie A.A. Gamble
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![Text of the page discusses walking out and on around the world and people who choose to leave behind problems to create new systems, featuring a bold headline "Walking Out and On" and the subheading "Walk Outs are people who bravely choose to leave behind unsolvable problems, scarce resources, limiting beliefs and individualism."]()
Walking Out and On
By Walk Out Walk On
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![Screenshot of an online article titled 'The challenge of systems leadership' on Medium. The article is authored by Rachel Sinha and was published on October 19, 2017. There are options to listen or share the article below the title.]()
The Challenge of Systems Leadership
By Rachel Sinha
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![A close-up image showing a complex network of black wires with shiny, reflective droplets of water clinging to them.]()
Bronagh Gallagher: There’s a revolution going on that you might not know about
By Angela at Source News
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![Cover of a report titled 'The Finance Innovation Lab: A Strategy for Systems Change' with abstract scientific and technological icons at the bottom.]()
The Finance Innovation Lab: A Strategy for Systems Change
By The Finance Innovation Lab
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![Text on a book cover that reads 'The Art of Powerful Questions' with a partial illustration of a clock and people on a curved path.]()
The Art of Powerful Questions
By Eric E. Vogt, Juanita Brown, and David Isaacs
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![Screenshot of a website titled "Leader to Leader Institute" with links to articles, books, resources, collaboration, self-assessment, awards, conferences, and about us. The article title is "The Art of Chaordic Leadership" by Dee Hock, published in winter 2000, and the text begins with a large red letter 'T'.]()
The Art of Chaordic Leadership
By Dee Hock
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![Photograph of a diverse crowd gathered outside a building during nighttime, with some onlookers and police officers standing behind a barricade, and a brick wall in the background.]()
Building Resilient Organizations: Toward Joy and Durable Power in a Time of Crisis
by Maurice Mitchell
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![Screenshot of a blog post titled 'Equity vs. Equality: What's the Difference?' from the Othering & Belonging Institute website, dated March 28, 2023, authored by Stephen Menendian, with social media icons below.]()
Equity vs. Equality: What's the Difference?
By Stephen Menendian
Videos
Websites
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Visit the Art of Hosting website.
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Visit The Circle Way website.
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Visit the World Cafe website.
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Visit the Open Space World website.
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Visit the Presencing Theory website.
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Visit Margaret Wheatley’s website.