In our ongoing series about navigating transition (Part 1 here), Tuesday explores what to do when we don’t know what to do next. What happens when we aren’t sure of our next step? What do we do when we don’t know what’s next or how to get there? Where do we turn when all we really want is a crystal ball to tell us something, anything, about the future that stretches out before us, and crystal balls are in short supply?

Join Tuesday and Tim as they reflect on their "Authors Series" - interviews with writers Zaid Hassan, Cyndi Suarez and Richard Beard - who are each trying to change the world in wildly different ways. In this episode, they explore what provoked them and the various different angles each of these "big brained" guests brought into privilege and into the scale, scope and depth of the work that we're trying to do in the world.

Tuesday and Tim are joined by Richard Beard, author of Sad Little Men - Private Schools and the Ruin of England, where they deep dive into his book and the systemic impacts of leaders, trained in boarding schools, on our systems, services, structures, programs and infrastructure.

"Transformation is happening around us, between us, and within us. It may be personal, organizational, or systemic, but there is no doubt that everything is up in the air and we are floundering to catch the pieces as they fall."

In this article, Tuesday shares her personal journey of transformation and the four lessons she's learning along the way.

Tuesday and Tim are joined by friend, author and president and editor in chief of Nonprofit Quarterly, Cyndi Suarez, where they talk about her work in shifting the discourse in nonprofits toward many things: innovation, racial justice, and edge leadership. Cyndi is breaking new ground in how the sector is thinking about making change and is full of ideas and practices that challenges the way we typically think about things. This one is ground shaking, folks! Enjoy.

Tuesday and Tim are joined by CEO of 10-in-10 and author of The Social Labs Revolution, Zaid Hassan, where they talk about invitations into work, how consultants can (or can not!) affect change, what 10-in-10 is doing differently to reinvent the future, and what drives Zaid to tackle the complex challenges of our times.

Here we go, friends! Tim and Tuesday are back for Season 5 of the podcast. In this season opener, they talk about what they’ve been up this summer [hint: Burning of the Man was involved!] and highlight some of the awesome people they’re interviewing. Join us for another inspiring new season of conversations.

“These days, I can’t seem to get it right. On the one hand, everyone is tired and overwhelmed, so they want me to make all the decisions. But on the other hand, these same people rebel against any decision that doesn’t include them in the process.”

“To open pathways of imagination beyond these habituated responses, I often invite groups to move together—and dwell for a while—into divergent spaces of not-knowing. Can we pause and stretch (even in the discomfort of it) before our habitual responses set our direction, inadvertently taking us into the same-old ruts and dead ends?”

Join Tuesday and Tim on their season finale episode where they reflect on their conversation with long-time friend and mentor, Toke Moeller - his personal presence, practice, knowledge, reflection, depth and grounding - it’s all in this one, folks! We also dive into what you can expect for Season 5. Hint: It’s going to be full of more amazing conversations!

Tuesday and Tim are joined by long-time friend, and mentor, Toke Moeller, co-founder of the Art of Hosting, The Flow Game, and The Practising for Peace dojo. Toke is one of the most grounded, pragmatic and visionary leaders we know. The conversation dives deep into the practices which can serve you both personally, professionally, and collectively, the need to slow down in the face of urgency, the understanding, practicing, and seeking of wisdom, the building of capacity to build more capacity for future generations, and how you can connect to the momentum from, what Toke calls, “Life Force.”

Join Tuesday and Tim as they reflect on their conversations with Pascal Porchet and Carolyn Townsend. They dive into all things systems change - language, personal transformation, heartbreak, hope, and the amazing people doing good work in broken systems every day.

Tuesday and Tim are joined by friend and colleague, Pascal Porchet, Chief of Staff for the International Committee of the Red Cross’ (ICRC) Global Operations. Tune in to hear how he navigates massive organizational transformation and the management of 15,000 staff world wide. This is a remarkable window into the life of a senior leader who engages with organizational top-down and bottom-up pressures, launching local interventions within the context of the global geopolitical landscape. Listen in to hear about Pascal's personal journey of transformation and his top tips for leading large scale change.

There are people trailblazing new paths and there are good people working in broken systems trying to make change. Both are needed. Tuesday and Tim are joined by friend and past client, Carolyn Townsend, principal owner of Alongside Strategy & Innovation and co-founder of the Future of Hockey Lab. They discuss the opportunities for, and barriers to, accessible sport in Nova Scotia, the challenges of "systems change" nebulous language, and the power and vulnerability of optimism and hope.

Join Tuesday and Tim as they talk about what's up for them personally and professionally and reflect on the recent conversations with systems change duos from Reos Partners South Africa and The Systems Sanctuary - Colleen Magner, Mahmood Sonday, Rachel Sinha, and Tatiana Fraser. Tim brings some pretty provocative statements in this one, folks! It’s juicy. Tune in.

Join Tim and Tuesday for a session with Colleen Magner and Mahmood Sonday, leaders of Reos Partners South Africa, who give us a remarkable insight into change making 30 years after the end of Apartheid.

Where are the islands of sanity in the midst of this modern mayhem? Where can I catch my breath, see the bigger picture and prioritize my next strategic steps? Join Rachel Sinha and Tatiana Fraser, the co-founders of The Systems Sanctuary, in their conversation with Tuesday and Tim. The four of them share stories of their work and explore some key learnings on the ascendency of relationships, peer learning as a strategy, how power plays out in a systems analysis, why they bring a feminist analysis and lens to their work, and how depth and connection bring joy into the work.

Public Health leaders have been on the forefront on change over the last 2 years. They've had to rise to the inherent complexity of our times and deliver within the medical, community, and political arenas.

Join Tuesday and Tim as they reflect on their interviews with public health leaders in Canada and the US. They talk about what COVID has brought to the surface for these leaders and public health in general, what they’ve learned through these interviews, and why we should be shouting all of this from the rooftops.

Tuesday and Tim continue their public health series - this time with a Midwestern US perspective - where they are joined by public health professionals, Kim Milbrath, Becky Sechrist, and Sarah Reece.

Together they explore, “what is leadership in these times?” Hear from these senior leaders in public health navigating the public opinions and political pressures of COVID in Minnesota, where George Floyd was murdered. Race, politics, activism, strategy, evidence based decisions, rapid responsiveness, courage and good humour all show up as the ingredients in these brilliant leaders lives and work. If you want to hear what it's like to be on the leading edge at this time, tune in. There are no better teachers than those who are DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

Join Tuesday and Tim as they reflect on the last three episodes of the pod with dear friends and mentors, Adam Kahane, Arawana Hayashi & Margaret Wheatley. Tune in to hear how these three leaders continue to influence the field of systems change, how they’re informing Tim and Tuesday’s personal and professional journeys, and how it’s all interwoven.