Episode 1.01: Reflections




In episode one, Tim and Tuesday kick off with a lively conversation on what matters most as change makers push back — on broken systems, missing voices, and the status quo.

Together, Tim Merry and Tuesday Ryan-Hart are THE OUTSIDE—systems change and equity facilitators who bring the fresh air necessary to organize movements, organizations, and collaborators forward for progress, surfacing new mindsets for greater participation and shared impact.

1.01 —— SHOW NOTES

First up, we introduce ourselves, talk about our work—who we are and what we do—who are these voices in your ears? Then, we raise the deeper questions we’ll dive into in the coming months: key building blocks and obstacles in the shared work of equity and systems change.

  • Tim riffs a spoken word poem about reflection being too important to leave to chance.

  • What about how and where we came up in the world made us? Tim and Tuesday recap their origins in the world—class, education, geographies, cultures, careers, ethnicity—equity!—and how all this shapes who they are today.

  • How do we align our basis for processing the world—our strategic brain, which comes with all kinds of assumptions and patterns rooted in our life experience—with a new sort of bigger-picture strategy that has to get beyond the typical?

  • Tim and Tuesday explore various positive and negative influencing factors in ‘running the room’ when they’re experimenting towards systems change: generosity, that just-enough mentality, privilege.

  • How can we acknowledge a persistently difficult reality while also uplifting the room? Not just conceptual clarity, but also being clear on how much we don’t know. What’s the value of knowing how much we don’t know?

  • Why does the principle of ‘a world that serves all’ feel like ‘milk toast’, as Tuesday calls it? Important, but somehow bland. ‘Serves all’ becomes a blanket that can muffle clarity. Equity is not just addressing marginalization, but also building something that every person in the system, across power lines, actively benefits from. Not just ending lack of benefit but creating benefit. We’re radically committed to this idea, but we need to make sure that when we talk about it, it’s not a throwaway line.

  • EPISODE 1 SONG: Damn, dis-moi by Christine and the Queens

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Duration: 40:26
Produced by: Mark Coffin @ Sound Good Studios
Theme music: Gary Blakemore