FIND THE OUTSIDE is a podcast about making change with this key truth at the centre: fresh air always helps.

A lively, off-the-cuff conversation hosted by Tuesday Ryan-Hart and Tim Merry on large-scale systems change and equity. For surprising turns, mind-blowing perspective shifts, and good ideas no matter what's in the way.

In this podcast, we’ll share our greatest light-bulb moments as we advance our own understanding of this work. We’re doing it live, and inviting you in. Welcome!

As Tim says in the first episode: reflection is too important to leave to chance. These conversations give us (and you!) a chance to slow down, catch our breath, and see our space and our work more clearly. Subscribe, share, and watch for new episodes coming through the fall. We’re happy to be in your ears!


Episode 2.02: Across the Divide

ON FINDING UNEXPECTED ALLIANCES || Tim and Tuesday interview Jacob Watkins of Price Waterhouse Cooper (PwC). In collaboration with the International Committee of the Red Cross, Jacob has brought a remarkably different point of view, resulting in an incredibly rich field of learning for the unlikely trio. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 15, 2019

Episode 2.01: Generosity

THE HEART-EXPANSION AND OPPORTUNITY OF GENEROSITY || In the first episode of season two, Tim and Tuesday explore one of the most prescient requirements of equitable change: to draw out generosity, which cannot be forced, but earned. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 1, 2019


SEASON ONE


Episode 1.01: Reflections   WHAT MATTERS MOST AS CHANGE MAKERS PUSH BACK ON THE STATUS QUO?  Tim and Tuesday kick off with a lively conversation on backwards-engineering and reimagining broken systems, missing voices, and the status quo.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.01: Reflections

WHAT MATTERS MOST AS CHANGE MAKERS PUSH BACK ON THE STATUS QUO?

Tim and Tuesday kick off with a lively conversation on backwards-engineering and reimagining broken systems, missing voices, and the status quo. For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.02: Origins   HOW COLLABORATORS STAY IN RELATIONSHIP ALONG THE PATH OF SYSTEMS CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday recap the facilitation paths that led them towards their collaboration on equity, big systems change, and leadership.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.02: Origins

HOW COLLABORATORS STAY IN RELATIONSHIP ALONG THE PATH OF SYSTEMS CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday recap the facilitation paths that led them towards their collaboration on equity, big systems change, and leadership. For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.03: Neutrality   THE HOW-TO OF FACILITATION THAT BRINGS MORE — IDEAS, VOICES, CLARITY — FORWARD  Tim and Tuesday contemplate the nature of neutrality for hosts or facilitators. What are our obligations towards the people in the room?  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.03: Neutrality

THE HOW-TO OF FACILITATION THAT BRINGS MORE — IDEAS, VOICES, CLARITY — FORWARD

Tim and Tuesday contemplate the nature of neutrality for hosts or facilitators. What are our obligations towards the people in the room? For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 2, 2018

Episode 1.04: Heartbreak   FACING SETBACKS, DISAPPOINTMENT, AND INJUSTICE AS A LEADERSHIP PRACTICE  Tim and Tuesday reflect on the mindset shift of seeing reality clearly — not just the future that we hope for — and the value of working with  what   is , right now.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || October 16, 2018

Episode 1.04: Heartbreak

FACING SETBACKS, DISAPPOINTMENT, AND INJUSTICE AS A LEADERSHIP PRACTICE

Tim and Tuesday reflect on the mindset shift of seeing reality clearly — not just the future that we hope for — and the value of working with what is, right now. For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 16, 2018


Episode 1.05: Focus   ON STAYING SMALL AND DIRECTING ENERGY INSTEAD OF SCALING UP  Tim and Tuesday unpack why they’re not growing bigger, choosing to be small, flexible, and connected for the freedom to direct energy with precision.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || October 30, 2018

Episode 1.05: Focus

ON STAYING SMALL AND DIRECTING ENERGY INSTEAD OF SCALING UP

Tim and Tuesday unpack why they’re not growing bigger, choosing to be small, flexible, and connected for the freedom to direct energy with precision. For show notes, visit the episode page. || October 30, 2018

Episode 1.06: Liberation   HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND OPT OUT OF LIMITING BELIEFS FOR MOMENTUM  Tim and Tuesday explore the role played by limiting beliefs in their work on systems change, equity and leadership—and the practice of letting them go.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || November 13, 2018

Episode 1.06: Liberation

HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND OPT OUT OF LIMITING BELIEFS FOR MOMENTUM

Tim and Tuesday explore the role played by limiting beliefs in their work on systems change, equity and leadership—and the practice of letting them go. For show notes, visit the episode page. || November 13, 2018

Episode 1.07: How to Make a Living   HOW TO LEAD CHANGE AND BRING ENERGY WHEN YOU’VE GOT TO PAY THE BILLS  Tim and Tuesday invite us ‘backstage’ to share revelations and lessons along the path of making their work of systems change into a bankable business.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || November 27, 2018

Episode 1.07: How to Make a Living

HOW TO LEAD CHANGE AND BRING ENERGY WHEN YOU’VE GOT TO PAY THE BILLS

Tim and Tuesday invite us ‘backstage’ to share revelations and lessons along the path of making their work of systems change into a bankable business. For show notes, visit the episode page. || November 27, 2018

Episode 1.08: Depth   HOW TO STAGE THE ROOM FOR HEALING, MOMENTUM, AND SERIOUS PROGRESS  Tim and Tuesday empathize with collaborators separated by organizational difference or mandates — and explore how to draw out the greatest value.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || December 11, 2018

Episode 1.08: Depth

HOW TO STAGE THE ROOM FOR HEALING, MOMENTUM, AND SERIOUS PROGRESS

Tim and Tuesday empathize with collaborators separated by organizational difference or mandates — and explore how to draw out the greatest value. For show notes, visit the episode page. || December 11, 2018


Episode 1.09: Polarity   HOW TO BUILD BRIDGES FOR ACTION AND CAPACITY THROUGH LISTENING  Tim and Tuesday dig into why we act without considering schisms at-play — and illuminate how and why we retreat from difficulty (and from each other).  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || January 8, 2019

Episode 1.09: Polarity

HOW TO BUILD BRIDGES FOR ACTION AND CAPACITY THROUGH LISTENING

Tim and Tuesday dig into why we act without considering schisms at-play — and illuminate how and why we retreat from difficulty (and from each other). For show notes, visit the episode page. || January 8, 2019

Episode 1.10: Good Grief   HOW THE INSIGHT OF LOSS COMBATS CYNICISM AND DESPAIR IN CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday talk to author Kate Inglis on the parallels of how we can be light-keepers despite loss as human beings and impossible odds as change leaders.  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || January 22, 2019

Episode 1.10: Good Grief

HOW THE INSIGHT OF LOSS COMBATS CYNICISM AND DESPAIR IN CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday talk to author Kate Inglis on the parallels of how we can be light-keepers despite loss as human beings and impossible odds as change leaders. For show notes, visit the episode page. || January 22, 2019

Episode 1.11: Sport   WINNING AND FORMATIVE GOODNESS  Tim and Tuesday deconstruct the change journey of a piece of work that rings bells across the spectrum. Using sport as a container, what can the rest of us learn about breaking through to ‘win’?  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || February 5, 2019

Episode 1.11: Sport

WINNING AND FORMATIVE GOODNESS

Tim and Tuesday deconstruct the change journey of a piece of work that rings bells across the spectrum. Using sport as a container, what can the rest of us learn about breaking through to ‘win’? For show notes, visit the episode page. || February 5, 2019

Episode 1.12: Ancestors I   EXAMINING YESTERDAY’S ACTIONS TO UNDERSTAND TODAY’S REALITY  Tim and Tuesday interpret our ancestors’ actions and impacts to grasp the underpinnings of our current world. ||  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || February 19, 2019

Episode 1.12: Ancestors I

EXAMINING YESTERDAY’S ACTIONS TO UNDERSTAND TODAY’S REALITY

Tim and Tuesday interpret our ancestors’ actions and impacts to grasp the underpinnings of our current world. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || February 19, 2019


Episode 1.13: Ancestors II   EXAMINING YESTERDAY’S ACTIONS TO UNDERSTAND TODAY’S REALITY  Tim and Tuesday continue on history, impact, and our world, exploring how context fundamentally alters how we relate to each other. ||  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || MARCH 5, 2019

Episode 1.13: Ancestors II

EXAMINING YESTERDAY’S ACTIONS TO UNDERSTAND TODAY’S REALITY

Tim and Tuesday continue on history, impact, and our world, exploring how context fundamentally alters how we relate to each other. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || MARCH 5, 2019

Episode 1.14: Togetherness   HOW CHANGE FACILITATORS LEVEL-UP POSSIBILITY IN THE ROOM  Facilitator, mentor, and friend  Gibrán Rivera  joins Tim and Tuesday for a conversation about how to practice togetherness to tackle insurmountable problems. ||  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || MARCH 19, 2019

Episode 1.14: Togetherness

HOW CHANGE FACILITATORS LEVEL-UP POSSIBILITY IN THE ROOM

Facilitator, mentor, and friend Gibrán Rivera joins Tim and Tuesday for a conversation about how to practice togetherness to tackle insurmountable problems. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || MARCH 19, 2019

Episode 1.15: Anniversary   FROM EXPERIMENTATION TO ACTUALIZATION  The Outside’s team, story, and facilitation is a constant iteration—a balance of field work, personal growth, and big building. This week, Tim and Tuesday explore how to do justice to the work—and work to justice. ||  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || April 2, 2019

Episode 1.15: Anniversary

FROM EXPERIMENTATION TO ACTUALIZATION

The Outside’s team, story, and facilitation is a constant iteration—a balance of field work, personal growth, and big building. This week, Tim and Tuesday explore how to do justice to the work—and work to justice. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || April 2, 2019

Episode 1.16: Bridges   HOW TO CONVENE FOR MULTI-SECTOR, MULTI-STAKEHOLDER CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday discover Forward Malmo, a movement uniting for multi-sector, multi-stakeholder change. How can we best share our problems and our work? ||  For show notes, visit the episode page.  || April 16, 2019

Episode 1.16: Bridges

HOW TO CONVENE FOR MULTI-SECTOR, MULTI-STAKEHOLDER CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday discover Forward Malmo, a movement uniting for multi-sector, multi-stakeholder change. How can we best share our problems and our work? || For show notes, visit the episode page. || April 16, 2019


Episode 1.17: Personal Practice   HOW TO TO KEEP CALM AND NOT-PANIC FOR BIG CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday explore how stay open and move forward in rooms electric with uncertainty? How can we make our energy as leaders a renewable resource? ||  For show notes, visit the episode page . || April 30, 2019

Episode 1.17: Personal Practice

HOW TO TO KEEP CALM AND NOT-PANIC FOR BIG CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday explore how stay open and move forward in rooms electric with uncertainty? How can we make our energy as leaders a renewable resource? || For show notes, visit the episode page. || April 30, 2019

Episode 1.18: Teamwork   GROWING A BUSINESS OF CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday explore how we work with distributed teams: as ‘managers of one’, how can we stay connected and navigate complex issues and processes elegantly in the context of a rapidly-growing business? ||  For show notes, visit the episode page . || May 14, 2019

Episode 1.18: Teamwork

GROWING A BUSINESS OF CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday explore how we work with distributed teams: as ‘managers of one’, how can we stay connected and navigate complex issues and processes elegantly in the context of a rapidly-growing business? || For show notes, visit the episode page. || May 14, 2019

Episode 1.19: The Circle   FROM THE FLOOR: A NEW PROCESS FOR SYSTEMS THAT NEED CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday tell the story of a new, improvised process to orchestrate memorable, game-changing breakthroughs or surges ahead in understanding. ||  For show notes, visit the episode page . || May 28, 2019

Episode 1.19: The Circle

FROM THE FLOOR: A NEW PROCESS FOR SYSTEMS THAT NEED CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday tell the story of a new, improvised process to orchestrate memorable, game-changing breakthroughs or surges ahead in understanding. || For show notes, visit the episode page. || May 28, 2019

Episode 1.20: Data   HOW DATA UNDERPINS CLARITY AND MAPS TO BETTER FUTURES  Tim and Tuesday dig into the big-picture view that validates a good forward path. How can we quantify the current while extending our line of sight to future-making? ||  For show notes, visit the episode page . || June 11, 2019

Episode 1.20: Data

HOW DATA UNDERPINS CLARITY AND MAPS TO BETTER FUTURES

Tim and Tuesday dig into the big-picture view that validates a good forward path. How can we quantify the current while extending our line of sight to future-making? || For show notes, visit the episode page. || June 11, 2019


Episode 1.21: School’s Out   TAKE HEART + CULTIVATE READINESS FOR BOLD CHANGE  Tim and Tuesday wrap a year of incredible conversations with a reflection: as change facilitators, how can we find fertile and steady ground in emergent work? ||  For show notes, visit the episode page . || June 25, 2019

Episode 1.21: School’s Out

TAKE HEART + CULTIVATE READINESS FOR BOLD CHANGE

Tim and Tuesday wrap a year of incredible conversations with a reflection: as change facilitators, how can we find fertile and steady ground in emergent work? || For show notes, visit the episode page. || June 25, 2019

 
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